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The Adventure of the Three Students
The Return of Sherlock Holmes
Words: 6480
Where was Watson living? Baker Street???
Pre/Post Reichenbach (May 1891)? Post. 1895.
Brief summary:
Characters:
Sherlock Holmes
John Watson
Hilton Soames - tutor and lecturer at the College of St. Luke’s
Bannister – served Soames as a servant for 10 yrs. little, white-faced, clean-shaven, grizzly-haired fellow of fifty.
Daulat Ras – Indian student who is taking the examination. Lives in the middle floor.
Gilchrist – athlete, father Sir Jabez Gilchrist (had gambling problem). Lives on lowest floor. Does he has a first name?
Miles McLaren - lives on top floor. Bright, lazy, and had a card scandal.
Location:
Unknown campus in unknown place staying at some furnished unknown lodgings
Mentioned College of St. Luke’s, but this is false.
Other crimes/criminals mentioned:
None
Other studies mentioned:
Striking results from studying early English charters
Thoughts/questions about the story
On the date. Watson spends the entire first paragraph saying he’s changed details so you can’t figure it out. So, he could have easily changed the date…
What are the “great University towns” in London/England?
Early English charters?
College of St. Luke’s? I found one near the University of Exeter.
Soames – an acquaintance of Watson and Holmes. More backstory would be nice.
“for the credit of the college, it is most essential to avoid scandal” – I sympathize with him here. Having created and administered exams, we guard those things with our lives.
Fortescue Scholarship?
Thucydides?
green baize? https://janeaustensworld.wordpress.com/2012/01/27/the-green-baize-door-dividing-line-between-servant-and-master/ I am sure that there is more behind this term as well.
“whose honesty is absolutely above suspicion” – of course he is…
“unpardonable liberty of examining my papers” - More servant culture stuff I am unfamiliar with.
Brandy seems to fix everything. Need to look at the history behind that.
History of pencils and pencil sharpening?
“fine surface of red leather” Why is leather needed on the surface of a writing table? It would make it squishy.
“Not one of your cases, Watson—mental, not physical. All right; come if you want to.” Be left behind, nope, not likely. This is post Reichenbach, how does he not know his Watson at this point?
“Holmes made an examination of the carpet” Hehe! My inner self is imagining Jeremy Brett crawling around the ground dramatically.
“Watson, I have always done you an injustice. There are others.”
- This seems really out of place to me in the rest of the paragraph. Not sure of the meaning.
“got his Blue”?
Quadrangle – I love this word. No reason why, it makes me giggle.
“You can go to blazes” – Find a list/reference for British swear words/sayings
“And yet that Indian was a sly fellow also. Why should he be pacing his room all the time?”
- This part with Holmes is defending Daulat’s actions also seems like he could be defending his own actions as well.
“What with your eternal tobacco, Watson, and your irregularity at meals, I expect that you will get notice to quit and that I shall share your downfall”
- I think this is humor but I am not sure what is going on here.
- Maybe it is sarcasm. The tobacco and irregularity at meals is a Holmes thing, so maybe Holmes is goading him here?
Rhodesian Police?
What happened to Bannister? Would he have been kept on or fired?
Other things about Holmes
“My friend’s temper had not improved since he had been deprived of the congenial surroundings of Baker Street. Without his scrap-books, his chemicals, and his homely untidiness, he was an uncomfortable man.”
Holmes is six feet high
The Adventure of the Three Students
The Return of Sherlock Holmes
Words: 6480
Where was Watson living? Baker Street???
Pre/Post Reichenbach (May 1891)? Post. 1895.
Brief summary:
Characters:
Sherlock Holmes
John Watson
Hilton Soames - tutor and lecturer at the College of St. Luke’s
Bannister – served Soames as a servant for 10 yrs. little, white-faced, clean-shaven, grizzly-haired fellow of fifty.
Daulat Ras – Indian student who is taking the examination. Lives in the middle floor.
Gilchrist – athlete, father Sir Jabez Gilchrist (had gambling problem). Lives on lowest floor. Does he has a first name?
Miles McLaren - lives on top floor. Bright, lazy, and had a card scandal.
Location:
Unknown campus in unknown place staying at some furnished unknown lodgings
Mentioned College of St. Luke’s, but this is false.
Other crimes/criminals mentioned:
None
Other studies mentioned:
Striking results from studying early English charters
Thoughts/questions about the story
On the date. Watson spends the entire first paragraph saying he’s changed details so you can’t figure it out. So, he could have easily changed the date…
What are the “great University towns” in London/England?
Early English charters?
College of St. Luke’s? I found one near the University of Exeter.
Soames – an acquaintance of Watson and Holmes. More backstory would be nice.
“for the credit of the college, it is most essential to avoid scandal” – I sympathize with him here. Having created and administered exams, we guard those things with our lives.
Fortescue Scholarship?
Thucydides?
green baize? https://janeaustensworld.wordpress.com/2012/01/27/the-green-baize-door-dividing-line-between-servant-and-master/ I am sure that there is more behind this term as well.
“whose honesty is absolutely above suspicion” – of course he is…
“unpardonable liberty of examining my papers” - More servant culture stuff I am unfamiliar with.
Brandy seems to fix everything. Need to look at the history behind that.
History of pencils and pencil sharpening?
“fine surface of red leather” Why is leather needed on the surface of a writing table? It would make it squishy.
“Not one of your cases, Watson—mental, not physical. All right; come if you want to.” Be left behind, nope, not likely. This is post Reichenbach, how does he not know his Watson at this point?
“Holmes made an examination of the carpet” Hehe! My inner self is imagining Jeremy Brett crawling around the ground dramatically.
“Watson, I have always done you an injustice. There are others.”
- This seems really out of place to me in the rest of the paragraph. Not sure of the meaning.
“got his Blue”?
Quadrangle – I love this word. No reason why, it makes me giggle.
“You can go to blazes” – Find a list/reference for British swear words/sayings
“And yet that Indian was a sly fellow also. Why should he be pacing his room all the time?”
- This part with Holmes is defending Daulat’s actions also seems like he could be defending his own actions as well.
“What with your eternal tobacco, Watson, and your irregularity at meals, I expect that you will get notice to quit and that I shall share your downfall”
- I think this is humor but I am not sure what is going on here.
- Maybe it is sarcasm. The tobacco and irregularity at meals is a Holmes thing, so maybe Holmes is goading him here?
Rhodesian Police?
What happened to Bannister? Would he have been kept on or fired?
Other things about Holmes
“My friend’s temper had not improved since he had been deprived of the congenial surroundings of Baker Street. Without his scrap-books, his chemicals, and his homely untidiness, he was an uncomfortable man.”
Holmes is six feet high
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Date: 2017-09-07 04:48 pm (UTC)The great University towns are Oxford and Cambridge, Oxford dates back to before 1160, Cambridge dates from 1200. The London colleges only date from 1830s, so in Holmes' times still newcomers.
English charters were the documents which specified the rights/responsibilities of certain people, often covering land ownership. The Magna Carta of 1215 is one major example. There were many others.
The Fortescue Scholarship - a made up name - would have provided funds for whoever obtained it to help with their studies.
Thucydides - Greek historian, wrote a history in classical Greek (of course!)
Not sure about the green baize door, but it would have helped keep the noise down.
There are a lot of in-jokes about the use of brandy within the
No idea about why leather on writing desks, but I have a bureau I inherited from my grandfather and it has leather in the middle where you would write.
Got his blue: means that he was chosen to represent the university at a particular sport. Oxford wear dark blue, Cambridge wear light blue, I'm assuming this is where the term comes from.
Rhodesia was the name for the country in southern Africa now called Zimbabwe. It was part of the British Empire, so at that time the British were responsible for law and order there and the officers would be British.
Any further questions on these points please ask.
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Date: 2017-09-09 10:56 pm (UTC)Of course I want to know more about the brandy in-jokes. ;)